维基教科书:互助客栈/存档/二零一四年

Request for comment on Commons: Should Wikimedia support MP4 video?

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I apologize for this message being only in English. Please translate it if needed to help your community.

The Wikimedia Foundation's multimedia team seeks community guidance on a proposal to support the MP4 video format. This digital video standard is used widely around the world to record, edit and watch videos on mobile phones, desktop computers and home video devices. It is also known as H.264/MPEG-4 or AVC.

Supporting the MP4 format would make it much easier for our users to view and contribute video on Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects -- and video files could be offered in dual formats on our sites, so we could continue to support current open formats (WebM and Ogg Theora).

However, MP4 is a patent-encumbered format, and using a proprietary format would be a departure from our current practice of only supporting open formats on our sites -- even though the licenses appear to have acceptable legal terms, with only a small fee required.

We would appreciate your guidance on whether or not to support MP4. Our Request for Comments presents views both in favor and against MP4 support, based on opinions we’ve heard in our discussions with community and team members.

Please join this RfC -- and share your advice.

All users are welcome to participate, whether you are active on Commons, Wikipedia, other Wikimedia project -- or any site that uses content from our free media repository.

You are also welcome to join tomorrow's Office hours chat on IRC, this Thursday, January 16, at 19:00 UTC, if you would like to discuss this project with our team and other community members.

We look forward to a constructive discussion with you, so we can make a more informed decision together on this important topic. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 2014年1月16日 (四) 06:47 (UTC)[回复]

小工具说明的转换标记残留

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Special:参数设置#mw-prefsection-gadgets中有大量繁简转换标记残留,希望处理。--H2NCH2COOH (留言) 2014年2月5日 (三) 11:19 (UTC)[回复]

Amendment to the Terms of Use

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Call for project ideas: funding is available for community experiments

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I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

Do you have an idea for a project that could improve your community? Individual Engagement Grants from the Wikimedia Foundation help support individuals and small teams to organize experiments for 6 months. You can get funding to try out your idea for online community organizing, outreach, tool-building, or research to help make Wikibooks better. In March, we’re looking for new project proposals.

Examples of past Individual Engagement Grant projects:

Proposals are due by 31 March 2014. There are a number of ways to get involved!

Hope to have your participation,

--Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 2014年2月28日 (五) 19:44 (UTC)[回复]

设立过滤器 Abuse filter

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(apologies for the English, if possible please transalte)

Greetings; This project has been receiving a lot of spam lately and I suggest that an abuse filter should be setup to prevent this. It's worth mentioning that blocks have been made by stewards globally as well as locally as a countermeasure and so far, this has not been very effective. --Glaisher (留言) 2014年3月4日 (二) 09:03 (UTC)[回复]

翻译︰君安。近期,本站广告越见频繁,乃建议设立过滤器,以竭此况。值得一提,纵监管员著手全域或逐站施禁以为对策,力阻广告,惜其效不彰。--J.Wong 2014年3月9日 (日) 02:36 (UTC)[回复]

君所言甚是,本人同意设立过滤器。 You are right. I support setting up the filter. s--J.Wong 2014年3月9日 (日) 02:36 (UTC)[回复]

Proposed optional changes to Terms of Use amendment

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Hello all, in response to some community comments in the discussion on the amendment to the Terms of Use on undisclosed paid editing, we have prepared two optional changes. Please read about these optional changes on Meta wiki and share your comments. If you can (and this is a non english project), please translate this announcement. Thanks! Slaporte (WMF) 2014年3月13日 (四) 21:56 (UTC)[回复]

欢迎关注我即将为Wiki带来的一个中文支持功能

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大家好, 在今年的Google Summer of Code项目中,我所申请的“为通用语言选择器提供中文字体支持”项目成功入选,将在未来的三个月内完成这一工程,并争取早日合并入主代码库。

工程概述

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如果一个页面中包含了需要某种字体才能显示的文字,而阅读者的设备上没有这种字体,就会显示出无法阅读的“豆腐块”。这种问题对于中文尤为常见,因为很多非中文用户的设备里没有中文字体;而且中文用户的字体库里也不可能含有所有字符。我们知道汉字有8万个以上,仅在Unicode中就定义了7万多,而实际上中文常用字很少,只有3500个左右。大多数用户都只安装了这些常用字,几乎不可能有人安装了包含所有汉字的字体。而Wiki作为一种包罗万象的媒体,页面上可能包含任何汉字。可以想象一下,我们写一个“古汉字专题Wiki”或者“生僻汉字专题Wiki”,对大多数人来说它们将是无法阅读的。

Webfonts技术是解决豆腐问题的一个办法,已经在wikimedia中启用。当发现页面中的特殊字体无法正常显示时,就从服务器上下载对应的字体文件。然而到目前为止wikimedia的webfonts仍然不支持中文,可能是因为中文字体太大了。即便只包含常用的3000多个汉字的字体文件,大小也会以数MB记,而我们要的是包含所有生僻字的解决方案,字体文件将达到几十MB,无法想象在打开一个页面时如果要加载这么大的文件,谁还会愿意打开。

本工程要解决的就是上述问题,主要完成两件事: 1. 字体裁剪。针对每个页面生成专用字体文件,比如某页面只使用了107个汉字,就为它生成只含107个汉字的字体文件,大概只有10~20KB,下载速度极快。 2. 字体收集。如果页面上包含了一个字形,连服务器的字形库里也没有,就秉持Wiki的贡献和分享精神,提供一个接口鼓励用户制作这个字形并上传给服务器。

解决了这两个问题,你将几乎再也看不到任何中文“豆腐块”,你写的包含任何汉字的wiki页面,也几乎可以被世界上任何读者无障碍阅读。

相关链接

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欢迎关注本工作的进展,提出意见、建议,试用、报告Bug等。

talk 13:20, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

2014年2月维基媒体亮点

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2014年2月维基媒体基金会报告维基媒体工程报告亮点,以及其他重要的维基媒体活动
 
Help complete the Chinese translation of the March 2014 Wikimedia Highlights
About · Subscribe · Distributed via MassMessage (wrong page? Correct it here), 2014年5月6日 (二) 05:15 (UTC)

Media Viewer

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Greetings, my apologies for writing in English.

I wanted to let you know that Media Viewer will be released to this wiki in the coming weeks. Media Viewer allows readers of Wikimedia projects to have an enhanced view of files without having to visit the file page, but with more detail than a thumbnail. You can try Media Viewer out now by turning it on in your Beta Features. If you do not enjoy Media Viewer or if it interferes with your work after it is turned on you will be able to disable Media Viewer as well in your preferences. I invite you to share what you think about Media Viewer and how it can be made better in the future.

Thank you for your time. - Keegan (WMF) 2014年5月23日 (五) 21:29 (UTC)[回复]

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食谱成立名子空间

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每次都用食谱/...到最后会有食谱会有几千个子页面,不如比照英文版成立名子空间en:Cookbook:Table of Contents__^ 2014年6月1日 (日) 06:31 (UTC)[回复]

同意。--J.Wong 2014年6月3日 (二) 09:29 (UTC)[回复]

Using only UploadWizard for uploads

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Hello! Sorry for writing in English. It was noted that on this wiki upload is not fully functional for users, who will experience a very difficult and/or illegal uploading. In fact, the licenses/copyright tags dropdown is empty, making it hard or impossible to comply with copyright requirements during upload itself.

Presumably, you don't have interest nor energies to have hundreds templates with the now required HTML, even less a local EDP. I propose to have

so that you can avoid local maintenance and all users can have a functioning, easy upload interface in their own language. All registered users can upload on Commons and existing files will not be affected.

All this will get done around 2014-07-03.

  1. If you disagree with the proposal, just remove your wiki from the list. Remember also to create MediaWiki:Licenses locally with any content (see a simple example), or uploads will be soon disabled anyway by MediaWiki itself (starting in version 1.24wmf11).
  2. To make the UploadWizard even better, please tell your experience and ideas on commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback.

Nemo 2014年6月19日 (四) 13:09 (UTC)[回复]

Media Viewer is now live on this wiki

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Media Viewer lets you see images in larger size

Greetings— and sorry for writing in English, please translate if it will help your community,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team is happy to announce that Media Viewer was just released on this site today.

Media Viewer displays images in larger size when you click on their thumbnails, to provide a better viewing experience. Users can now view images faster and more clearly, without having to jump to separate pages — and its user interface is more intuitive, offering easy access to full-resolution images and information, with links to the file repository for editing. The tool has been tested extensively across all Wikimedia wikis over the past six months as a Beta Feature and has been released to the largest Wikipedias, all language Wikisources, and the English Wikivoyage already.

If you do not like this feature, you can easily turn it off by clicking on "Disable Media Viewer" at the bottom of the screen, pulling up the information panel (or in your your preferences) whether you have an account or not. Learn more in this Media Viewer Help page.

Please let us know if you have any questions or comments about Media Viewer. You are invited to share your feedback in this discussion on MediaWiki.org in any language, to help improve this feature. You are also welcome to take this quick survey in English, en français, o español.

We hope you enjoy Media Viewer. Many thanks to all the community members who helped make it possible. - Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 2014年6月19日 (四) 21:54 (UTC)[回复]

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Call for comments on draft trademark policy

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补上时间戳要不然没法存档。--Liuxinyu970226 (留言) 2014年8月3日 (日) 01:16 (UTC)[回复]

Universal Language Selector will be enabled by default again on this wiki by 21 February 2014

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On January 21 2014 the MediaWiki extension Universal Language Selector (ULS) was disabled on this wiki. A new preference was added for logged-in users to turn on ULS. This was done to prevent slow loading of pages due to ULS webfonts, a behaviour that had been observed by the Wikimedia Technical Operations team on some wikis.

We are now ready to enable ULS again. The temporary preference to enable ULS will be removed. A new checkbox has been added to the Language Panel to enable/disable font delivery. This will be unchecked by default for this wiki, but can be selected at any time by the users to enable webfonts. This is an interim solution while we improve the feature of webfonts delivery.

You can read the announcement and the development plan for more information. Apologies for writing this message only in English. Thank you. Runa

补上时间戳要不然没法存档。--Liuxinyu970226 (留言) 2014年8月3日 (日) 01:17 (UTC)[回复]

Changes to the default site typography coming soon

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This week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:

  • April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
  • April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live

This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.

For more information:

-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team

zhidaola. --Liuxinyu970226 (留言) 2014年8月14日 (四) 09:54 (UTC)[回复]

教科书中不用添加参考文献吗?

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许多书籍中都没有见到参考文献的说。 --WhitePhosphorus (留言) 2014年8月3日 (日) 12:21 (UTC)[回复]

Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decisions

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The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.

If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on change.org.

-- JurgenNL (talk) 2014年8月21日 (四) 17:35 (UTC)[回复]

Process ideas for software development

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’’My apologies for writing in English.’’

Hello,

I am notifying you that a brainstorming session has been started on Meta to help the Wikimedia Foundation increase and better affect community participation in software development across all wiki projects. Basically, how can you be more involved in helping to create features on Wikimedia projects? We are inviting all interested users to voice their ideas on how communities can be more involved and informed in the product development process at the Wikimedia Foundation. It would be very appreciated if you could translate this message to help inform your local communities as well.

I and the rest of my team welcome you to participate. We hope to see you on Meta.

Kind regards, -- Rdicerb (WMF) talk 2014年8月21日 (四) 22:15 (UTC)[回复]

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@GzdavidwongJusjihShizhaoWcamWong128hk: 其他中文维基计划的Project:沙盒是直接连入真沙盒的,这边的居然是介绍页(对应维基百科w:Wikipedia:关于沙盒),考虑到维基数据早晚得支持维基教科书,防止在那边产生编辑战:

  1. Wikibooks:沙盒(现)-->Wikibooks:关于沙盒
  2. Wikibooks:沙盒1-->Wikibooks:沙盒(新)

--Liuxinyu970226 (留言) 2014年7月25日 (五) 09:47 (UTC)[回复]

Grants to improve your project

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Apologies for English. Please help translate this message.

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals for funding new experiments from September 1st to 30th. Your idea could improve Wikimedia projects with a new tool or gadget, a better process to support community-building on your wiki, research on an important issue, or something else we haven't thought of yet. Whether you need $200 or $30,000 USD, Individual Engagement Grants can cover your own project development time in addition to hiring others to help you.

Change in renaming process

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Part or all of this message may be in English. Please help translate if possible.

-- User:Keegan (WMF) (talk) 2014年9月9日 (二) 16:22 (UTC)[回复]

这边的行政员:@ShizhaoWong128hk:。--Liuxinyu970226 (留言) 2014年9月10日 (三) 05:17 (UTC)[回复]
本人正申请全域易名权限,故本站易名流程将不受影响。--J.Wong 2014年9月30日 (二) 09:38 (UTC)[回复]

关于操作系统下属页面的安排

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私以为是时候整理一下维基教科书的这些页面了。这些页面有的内容不适合教科书(另见:#系统架构,要是有 TW 标记就好了), 有的内容需要清理,并且条目与条目间所描述的事物常有极其多的相同点,但一些条目能涵盖到而另一些却不能。考虑到东西比较分散不方便放讨论页,我把这些编辑事宜就放在这里吧。

基于此,我个人建议这样的安排方式:

  • Windows-DOS: 目前模板按内核大致区分的路线基本正确
  • 建议合并 DOS 内核(3.1)世代和 9x 世代的内容到同一教科书。
  • 建议将 NT 按 NT 4, NT 5, NT 6 世代进行条目合并。服务器中的重复部分考虑直接配成 Windows Server 入门教程。
  • 未实现的暂时注释掉,各种克隆链接到相应的版本本身,可考虑新开一个章节。
  • 内容/应用软件待讨论
  • UNIX:有点乱,不过还来得及,反正基本都是红链
  • UNIX 这玩意的共通处实在太多(除了一个 OS X 可以把桌面环境另外讲讲),别的应用软件重合度真的很高。考虑:
  • 桌面环境介绍直接交给桌面环境教科书入门部分
  • 包管理器开一个共用
  • 不同的地方分别拎出来再说,例如应用间集成或者是专属应用(同样适合 Windows)
  • BSD 命令行工具可以跟传统的一起讲,GNU 的就拎出来谈拓展。这些命令行教程和所使用的 Shell 联系常常十分紧密,如何处理?写入 Bash 教程,拿来当作命令行入门?
  • 用户较少的部分商业 UNIX 合并到 UNIX 的一个子页面,但不是 UNIX 页面本身
  • TODO:各种 BSD 分支和 Linux 发行版的安排?合并到同一篇?
  • 推荐软件:给个列表好了。

我希望这样加大共用率的安排方式能有助于缩减总篇幅,同时避免条目内容的不同步性,也便于维护。希望大家多多讨论和给出建议……--Arthur2e5 更改·工具 2014年9月28日 (日) 10:43 (UTC)[回复]

法律法规法例逐条解说计划

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正当日文维基教科书有些法律法规法例逐条解说页面时,例如ja:消防法第13条,在此提议这边开办类似计划。但有很多汉字文化圈撞名法律法规法例时,建议这边应该一律用像是“道路交通标志标线号志设置规则/第13条”的子页面命名,以便将来发现撞名时,能轻易集体修正成像是“消防法 (中华民国)/第13条”的消歧义名称。否则像是“消防法第13条”的名称就必须个别移动重新命名,太不方便。--Jusjih (留言) 2014年9月1日 (一) 20:28 (UTC)[回复]

等何时维基数据提供维基教科书支援再说。--Liuxinyu970226 (留言) 2014年9月5日 (五) 05:35 (UTC)[回复]
好,谢谢。就等维基数据支援维基教科书,才开办法律法规法例逐条解说计划。例如,立法院法律系统收录的中华民国法律,依法条顺序显示的法条沿革,就适合法律法规法例逐条解说计划,但因为此编排是发展中的“作品”,所以不适合刊维基文库。--Jusjih (留言) 2014年9月7日 (日) 00:06 (UTC)[回复]
当然我还是很支持这样做的,这样等何时维基数据支援维基教科书后就可以开bot传送资料了,而不是一点点从维基数据汇入资料。--Liuxinyu970226 (留言) 2014年9月16日 (二) 04:44 (UTC)[回复]
已经强调国号的法律法规法例,例如s:Wikisource:专题/法律#汉字文化圈近似名称法律法规列举的中华民国刑法、引渡法 (中华民国)、中华人民共和国刑法、中华人民共和国引渡法等等,不应该有移动重新命名的可能,所以应能优先刊登逐条解说。反之,特殊教育法虽然除了台湾中华民国以外,尚未发现其他汉字文化圈国家地区有撞名,但非汉字文化圈国家地区仍有撞名,例如英文Special Education Act,所以尚未在维基文库强调国号的法律法规法例,应该先等何时维基数据支援维基教科书,才不会大规模移动重新命名而太不方便。--Jusjih (留言) 2014年9月30日 (二) 05:45 (UTC)[回复]
将来开始此计划时,中华民国法律页面应否一律冠以“中华民国法律/”,像是“中华民国法律/中华民国刑法”、“中华民国法律/引渡法”?如此的优点是不会与他国同名法律撞名,但缺点是命名更冗长。若不冠以“中华民国法律/”,就原则等待维基数据支援维基教科书。--Jusjih (留言) 2014年10月6日 (一) 02:41 (UTC)[回复]
讲解一条法例应该已有足够篇幅成书,故建议用分类集合,而非母页。不过命名方式确有待商榷以便分辨及免于撞名。--J.Wong 2014年10月7日 (二) 02:53 (UTC)[回复]
英文维基教科书同步询问en:Annotated Republic of China Laws/Civil Code/Article 8就是“注解中华民国法律/民法/第8条”。但应该商榷将来要统一称作“注解中华民国法律”还是“中华民国法律注解”,以力求其他国家地区地方法律注解命名一致。--Jusjih (留言) 2014年10月8日 (三) 06:16 (UTC)[回复]
已经开辟中华民国法律注解‎。所有法律都是子页面,所以不会与其他汉字文化圈国家地区有撞名。--Jusjih (留言) 2014年10月20日 (一) 04:14 (UTC)[回复]

系统架构

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维基教科书的模板和系统架构实在对于使用维基百科编辑的编者来说有比较大的落差。

  • 模板缺失或太老
{{Navbox}} 太老,各种缺文档,模板不够用那更多了。
Navbox 由 {{#invoke: Navbox | navbox }} 实现(维基教科书使用发生脚本错误——Lua 模块?)
  • 没有 TW,标记页面不方便。
  • 界面暴露未处理的简繁转换字符串
  • 名字空间重定向最好加一个 T: -> Template:

--Arthur2e5 更改·工具 2014年9月28日 (日) 10:43 (UTC)[回复]

@Wong128hk:--Arthur2e5 更改·工具 2014年9月28日 (日) 12:14 (UTC)[回复]

@Wong128hk:多谢。--Arthur2e5 更改·工具 2014年10月8日 (三) 07:37 (UTC)[回复]

Meta RfCs on two new global groups

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Hello all,

There are currently requests for comment open on meta to create two new global groups. The first is a group for members of the OTRS permissions queue, which would grant them autopatrolled rights on all wikis except those who opt-out. That proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Creation of a global OTRS-permissions user group. The second is a group for Wikimedia Commons admins and OTRS agents to view deleted file pages through the 'viewdeletedfile' right on all wikis except those who opt-out. The second proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Global file deletion review.

We would like to hear what you think on both proposals. Both are in English; if you wanted to translate them into your native language that would also be appreciated.

It is possible for individual projects to opt-out, so that users in those groups do not have any additional rights on those projects. To do this please start a local discussion, and if there is consensus you can request to opt-out of either or both at m:Stewards' noticeboard.

Thanks and regards, Ajraddatz (talk) 2014年10月26日 (日) 18:04 (UTC)[回复]

IT词汇简繁转换不太好

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希望大陆台湾计算机术语对照表里面的词语都可以添加到自动转换的IT分类里面。并且也要支持源代码注释的简繁转换啊。还有就是,在Google Chrome浏览器中,自动打开的是“不转换”的页面,希望能够像维基百科一样支持自动定位到相应的转换的页面。Alexander Misel (留言) 2014年10月26日 (日) 03:11 (UTC)[回复]

就算在百科,IT类条目都是普通人逐条加入全文转换Template:NoteTA,既然这里不完善,为什么阁下不协助去做?经测试,自动开启并非为“不转换”的页面。--瓜皮仔Canton 2014年11月1日 (六) 04:55 (UTC)[回复]
谢谢,我发现是我用户设置没有弄好。Alexander Misel (留言) 2014年11月2日 (日) 14:01 (UTC)[回复]

Global AbuseFilter

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Hello,

AbuseFilter is a MediaWiki extension used to detect likely abusive behavior patterns, like pattern vandalism and spam. In 2013, Global AbuseFilters were enabled on a limited set of wikis including Meta-Wiki, MediaWiki.org, Wikispecies and (in early 2014) all the "small wikis". Recently, global abuse filters were enabled on "medium sized wikis" as well. These filters are currently managed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and have shown to be very effective in preventing mass spam attacks across Wikimedia projects. However, there is currently no policy on how the global AbuseFilters will be managed although there are proposals. There is an ongoing request for comment on policy governing the use of the global AbuseFilters. In the meantime, specific wikis can opt out of using the global AbuseFilter. These wikis can simply add a request to this list on Meta-Wiki. More details can be found on this page at Meta-Wiki. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on m:Talk:Global AbuseFilter.

Thanks,

PiRSquared17, Glaisher

— 2014年11月14日 (五) 17:34 (UTC)

可视化编辑器将在此wiki作为测试功能启用

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大家好。请原谅我使用英语,我希望本地社群成员能够翻译它。

可视化编辑器,用于MediaWiki的富文本编辑器,将很快在此wiki作为测试功能提供。这预计在11月26日星期三到来。

要使用它,您需要在部署后访问测试功能 页面并在"⧼Visualeditor-preference-core-label⧽"之后给复选框打钩。(如果您已启用"自动启用大部分测试功能"选项,可视化编辑器将会自动开启。)这里也有一个"⧼Visualeditor-preference-language-label⧽",如果需要您也可以启用它。

此后,您需要点击"编辑"以打开可视化编辑器,或"编辑源代码"以继续使用传统的wiki文本编辑器。您可以通过可视化编辑器开始编辑,之后切换为wiki文本编辑器,而不会丢失任何更改。

在MediaWiki.org,我们发布了一个指引,这样您就可以了解这一过渡如何帮助您社群的发展:请阅读并翻译它,如果您可以!您将在这里找到我们下一步的工作的信息。请在主要的反馈页面反馈任何问题或建议。您也将在此页面接收到下一期多语言月刊:如果您希望在别处订阅,例如在您的个人讨论页,请将相关页面加入至此

感谢您的关注,祝编辑愉快!Elitre (WMF) 2014年11月21日 (五) 18:12 (UTC)[回复]

VisualEditor coming to this wiki as a Beta Feature (errata)

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新创一个与维基学院互连模板

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维基学院中的相关论述或教学:

w:维基学院所述,维基学院原本来作为维基教科书的项目,后而因开创教学与原创研究社群之需求而分离独立,目前中文维基学院仍存附于beta孵育状态,不过仍可互相连结使用,最近顺手创建了模板,{{wikiversity| 范例}},欢迎各位多加利用。--安可 (留言) 2014年11月22日 (六) 16:29 (UTC)[回复]

VisualEditor News #10—2014

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2014年12月26日 (五) 18:59 (UTC)